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Author Topic: Compare these two prescriptions for service.  (Read 8135 times)
AgathaL'Orange
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« on: April 19, 2009, 01:54:09 pm »

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We first must belong to someone and something, before we can really understand it, appreciate it, serve it, or lead it.  If we love the concept of the church as taught in the N.T., then we ought to find a local church and show it.  Find a body of believers where we can “Plant our flag and die.”
What do I mean? 
How do we die?  Easy!  Commit your heart to your local church and then show it, by serving your brothers and sisters until your knuckles are raw.  Serve your church until your heart is broken. 
Then serve some more.  And keep on serving – because they are family.  Because you need them for the fight.  Because they need you.   

That first quote is by Rick Whitney.

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To every toiling, heavy-laden sinner, Jesus says, ‘Come to me and rest’. But there are many toiling, heavy-laden believers, too. For them this same invitation is meant.

Note well the words of Jesus, if you are heavy-laden with your service, and do not mistake it. It is not, ‘Go, labor on,’ as perhaps you imagine. On the contrary, it is stop, turn back, ‘Come to me and rest.’

Never, never did Christ send a heavy laden one to work; never, never did He send a hungry one, a weary one, a sick or sorrowing one, away on any service. For such the Bible only says, ‘Come, come, come.’

The second quote is by Hudson Taylor.

Which one do you think has it right?


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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2009, 04:43:07 pm »

But did you personally know Hudson Taylor? What kind of character did he have? How could you possibly listen to someone unless you know they are a person of "character"? Was he recognized? Grin
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2009, 08:15:12 pm »

During the Reformation the Catholics wondered how these new Protestants would ever manage to build churches, pay salaries, or get the work of the church done if the people were given freedom...
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« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2009, 07:44:43 am »

But we KNOW Rick Whitney's heart sister!! Grin
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« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2009, 08:02:18 am »

Is this a trick question?  Wink
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« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2009, 09:00:27 am »

Which one do you think has it right?

Ag,

IMHO both might be right. I can imagine some circumstances where #1 might be good advice for someone. For example, someone who is single, lacking direction, having a desire to serve the Lord in a special way, and/or seeking to break with a bad lifestyle (like Ephesians 4:25-29).

For a lot of people, with their jobs and families and other responsibilities, #2 would sound more relevant.

This is a beef with GCx that several on this forum have expressed. It is not so much that GCx gives 100% bad advice, but that they take something that is a good idea for some people sometimes and turn it into a command for everyone all the time.


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« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2009, 09:35:23 am »

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Find a body of believers where we can “Plant our flag and die.
I believe this statement is wrong and dangerous. The Holy Spirit directs each believer. To suggest (especially to a young, new believer) that God desires every believer to commit to one specific group of people for the rest of his/her life is not something any human being has the right to say or demand. To suggest that "your leaders" know God's plan for your life is cult like. No one, except God, knows His plan for your life.

Furthermore, leaders, groups, churches, can change.  Heresy can enter in. False teachers can be "recognized". Anyone who understands vows or commitments would never make one like this. Vows/commitments should not be made lightly and when made they should be kept.
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