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« on: August 11, 2018, 05:45:02 pm »

I don’t know about you all but I heard a lot of “preaching” that men biologically need sex every three days so they can think clearly and manage their attitude. One pastor told a group of men, “I am grumpy today because ______  gave me sex too late in the morning.” 

I would like to expose this lie. Many if not all the men who I heard give this message at one time was highly addicted to porn. They have admitted to this. They also say they overcame this addiction through prayer, bible memorization, and accountability. I’ve never heard them say they overcame it with intense therapy with a paid counselor who helped them root out the cause of their addiction. I have sad news, these men (pastors) are still addicted to sex and are using their wives to feel okay about it. Furthermore they are abusing their entire church to try to normalize their behavior.

Honestly, let’s think this through. Do you know any single men that are able to think and manage their attitude?  Know any older men who have lost their wife but are still functioning well? 

Such a gross abuse of the church.
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2018, 06:54:24 pm »

Yes I remember numerous times I have had to listen to this lie. Evergreen raises up as a pastor a lot of men who are sex addicted or have poor boundaries.

That is why they need to purge Evergreen of its pastoral staff. Hire from seminaries. Yes the teachings will change because Evergreen does not teach God's word but a perversion of it. But that change would be a very good thing!
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2018, 04:58:45 am »

Oneofmany I agree with you but I want to highlight how wrong and abusive I think their demands on sex are. I think it’s harmful not only to their own wives who in my opinion are being abused but i think it’s harmful to all the marriages in the church because I believe they are trying to make THEIR problem look normal by manipulating all marriages to comply with what they need to be able to continue to live in denial of their sex addiction. This lie has heavily effected people’s marriages (people I know and love). If you’re a male and addicted to sex no one is encouraging you to seek out professional help to root out why you are addicted. Instead men are just being taught to abuse their own wives, whom they probably love and don’t want to be abusing. This false teaching also puts tremendous pressure on women to take responsibility for their husbands in ways no human should be responsible for another. Marriage doesn’t make a person responsible for another person’s thought life or attitude.
Sex is a beautiful and in my opinion fun gift from God to unite a marriage in intimacy and love and reproduction of children. It is NOT God’s plan for men to be able to keep their thinking clear, their attitudes cheerful, or their minds and hearts pure.
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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2018, 07:53:31 pm »

If you have a sex addiction, you sure can call up Jeromy Darling. He is a sex-addiction therapist now....

https://www.braveheartsrecoverynetwork.com/minneapolis/mentor/jeromy-darling
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2018, 07:56:32 pm »

And here is his book about sex. Talking to teens about sex.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XYH3Z3D/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_9RR3ybXG8FTKJ?pldnSite=1

(the apple does not fall far from the tree....again. How old was Susan? 19.)
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2018, 08:32:57 am »

If you have a sex addiction, you sure can call up Jeromy Darling. He is a sex-addiction therapist now....

https://www.braveheartsrecoverynetwork.com/minneapolis/mentor/jeromy-darling

He is a mentor, not a therapist.

It is troubling that someone raised in an environment of poor sexual boundaries in his church, an environment created by his father, who also does not recognize the problem, has placed himself in a position to help others.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2018, 11:58:11 am »

What is equally troubling is that someone who has publicly intimidated victims of sexual abuse, calling at least one of them a liar, is also going into hospitals to visit rape victims, according to The Salvage Project's website. The entry for Oct 9, 2017, contains the following statement:

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God recently opened up a door for me to visit rape victims at the hospital and minister to them as well.

I have no idea why Jeromy Darling thinks it would be in any way comforting for a newly traumatized victim to be visited in the hospital by some strange male who has no forensic or medical reason to demand her attention while she's still in shock. I'm also pretty sure the hospital would never permit him to do so if they were aware of his posts on this forum.
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2018, 12:56:08 pm »

Hulda - this is disturbing and confusing on so many levels.  I can't imagine how this can be allowed.  And if it were allowed, how a woman would feel having a strange MAN offer to 'mentor' her through her trauma??!!  Considering Jeromy Darling's posts on this forum, there is absolutely no way he should be allowed to do this.  Frightening.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2018, 02:47:59 pm »

Are we certain that he actually is doing this? He is a proven liar and exaggerates his influence and work.

If he is visiting rape victims in a hospital the answer is simple. Send copies of his posts to the hospital with a letter telling them about the situation.

Did he mention which hospital?
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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2018, 03:22:14 pm »

No, he didn't say which hospital. And you're correct that he's known to lie about things. I was just flabbergasted that he would even think of doing something so completely tone-deaf to the needs of the victims (and so utterly hypocritical).
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2018, 11:33:13 am »

A sidebar point to this: Sex has always been very important to the Darling’s and physical attraction. Mark and Jeromy are obsessed with SEX and attraction. This is a perfect thing for Jeromy to be a sexual mentor. Isn't Pa Darling a mentor now too? I agree, Jeromy is a very disturb person. Wants to fight off the sexual predator. But his father is not one(?)! I really really don't get it. And if you go to his lecturing site (JD), one of the notes from a high schooler says she/he was uncomfortable about his talk.

See here: http://www.thespokesman.live/what-kids-are-saying

The high school child writes: 'the way that he talked about things like porn and sex was a little uncomfortable...'

Are these parents told at these public high schools that he is talking so openly about sex, at the Evergreen website is told that it is PG-13, but no opt-out at the high school? Susan was a teenager, 19 when Mark started his conversations with her. Jeromy is starting younger, and even on his website is proud that his talks makes them uncomfortable.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2018, 11:40:30 am »

By the way, Jeromy has two areas or things that he is on that sexual mentoring site: 1) CSIM - Certified Sexual Integrity Mentor and is, 2) Faith-Based/Christ-Centered. He also says about himself: More About Jeromy Darling...I specialize in helping young men deal with their pornography addiction by eradicating access, and helping them create new, healthy habits in their daily lives.

Hopefully he stays with young men, (BUT HE IS NOT!!!) By the mere fact that he lectures in co-ed, Minnesota public high school's, he is reaching out to younger women than 19. Beating his dad. Jeromy is social marketing his business, yes, you could say, but I find it very very harmful of his various topics to younger women than the age of consent at 18 or even 19. They are forced to listen to Jeromy's versions of facts, sexualized facts. It made one child uncomfortable. Sickening.

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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2018, 07:11:05 pm »

Because it's directly related to the subject of this thread, and because this forum will continue to serve as an archive for years to come, I'm adding a link to another current thread, which discusses alleged sexually inappropriate discussions with underage students (by Mark Darling and other GC counselors) at an HSLT session.

http://forum.gcmwarning.com/general-discussion/hslt-past-experiences/
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« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2018, 04:08:41 am »

I appreciate the PayPal connection so I can send him money so easily.
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« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2018, 07:45:47 am »

Jeremy's letters from kids might be disabled. I cannot find any letters on the page.

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« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2018, 08:13:19 am »

I just clicked on the link that blonde gave for what kids are saying and it is there.

The video that Jeromy has on the Brave Hearts website I can hardly stomach. He sets himself up to be sort of a rescuer/messiah/the only person who really cares and can tell it to you strait about sex. I couldn't stomach it, couldn't watch the whole thing. He is so full of himself.

He talks about how our society is over the top sexualized and then he puts out a video that is over the top sexualized.

There is another video on youtube where he is interviewed about his "ministry". He talks about how he goes into women's prisons and sings and they are all crying. He describes a woman with black hair and blue eyes and the way he talks about her is creepy. Everyone in the prisons cry when they hear him sing his songs. gag

There is a lot of self worship going on.
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« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2018, 09:15:41 am »

I just clicked on the link that blonde gave for what kids are saying and it is there.

The video that Jeromy has on the Brave Hearts website I can hardly stomach. He sets himself up to be sort of a rescuer/messiah/the only person who really cares and can tell it to you strait about sex. I couldn't stomach it, couldn't watch the whole thing. He is so full of himself.

He talks about how our society is over the top sexualized and then he puts out a video that is over the top sexualized.

There is another video on youtube where he is interviewed about his "ministry". He talks about how he goes into women's prisons and sings and they are all crying. He describes a woman with black hair and blue eyes and the way he talks about her is creepy. Everyone in the prisons cry when they hear him sing his songs. gag

There is a lot of self worship going on.

Virtually no one has seen that You Tube video. LOL. That said. I think action could be taken to alert people to the problem. The schools and hospitals should be alerted. That would take documentation to send to them. Screen shots of what he has said. I did not screen shot his threats. If I had them I could put together something. Did anyone take screen shots before Jeromy deleted and white washed he postings?
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« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2018, 09:30:27 am »

Watching Jeromy Darling's video at https://www.braveheartsrecoverynetwork.com/videos/lovesexporn-33 right now. His intro that contrasts striptease with food is lifted straight from CS Lewis, without attribution. Lewis quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/612330-you-can-get-a-large-audience-together-for-a-strip-tease.

I don't disagree with a lot of what Jeromy says in the video, so far (I haven't fnished listening yet). I just find it disturbing that the dark and disturbed person he has revealed himself to be on this forum can presnet such a civil, upbeat, and convincing alternate persona in other contexts.
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« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2018, 09:39:14 am »

That is because most psychopathic people do well in society, especially if they are highly intelligent. They learn how to smile, to laugh, how to act as if they have emotions. They love to manipulate and control other people and they thrive off of being told how wonderful they are. That is why ministry is one of the top 10 job careers they flock to. That is why credible studies put the number of pastors who are psychopathic in personality at 80 percent.
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« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2018, 10:01:54 am »

Watching Jeromy Darling's video at https://www.braveheartsrecoverynetwork.com/videos/lovesexporn-33 right now. His intro that contrasts striptease with food is lifted straight from CS Lewis, without attribution. Lewis quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/612330-you-can-get-a-large-audience-together-for-a-strip-tease.

I don't disagree with a lot of what Jeromy says in the video, so far (I haven't fnished listening yet). I just find it disturbing that the dark and disturbed person he has revealed himself to be on this forum can presnet such a civil, upbeat, and convincing alternate persona in other contexts.

This is pathetic and oddly hilarious.

Rules, schmooles!

IRS tax law. Plagiarism laws. The Bible doesn't talk about those things, so, no need to follow those rules. Wink

I started watching that and thought it sounded familiar. I only lasted a couple seconds so didn't even make it to "mutton chop". That would have been the giveaway. We don't do mutton chops in the USA! Good catch.

Since they tell people all the teaching they need comes from their faithful GCx leaders, I suppose they assume that the masses are not familiar with Lewis.
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