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jeromydaviddarling
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« on: March 12, 2018, 11:13:23 am »

To puff of purple smoke, jehu, Admin, Linda, and AgathaL'Orange

I propose a truce: in order for you to abide by the rules you set out AND keep this place a SAFE space, remove ALL the threads about Suzanne's allegations until after the investigation is done. Do this and every current defender will back down. This is only the beginning. With one snap of my fingers I could have another hundred people in here engaging and interacting. I've specifically avoided asking folks to do this because I don't think it's their job.

To continue to allow this is torturing everyone in my family. Everyone. That violates basically all your rules yes?
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2018, 11:23:43 am »

To puff of purple smoke, jehu, Admin, Linda, and AgathaL'Orange

I propose a truce: in order for you to abide by the rules you set out AND keep this place a SAFE space, remove ALL the threads about Suzanne's allegations until after the investigation is done. Do this and every current defender will back down. This is only the beginning. With one snap of my fingers I could have another hundred people in here engaging and interacting. I've specifically avoided asking folks to do this because I don't think it's their job.

To continue to allow this is torturing everyone in my family. Everyone. That violates basically all your rules yes?

...And now we are finally getting somewhere. Suzanne's story isn't going away no matter what troll army you hope to summon. You are panicking and I suggest you step away and consider what you are doing here, which is threatening the victim of an alleged sexual assault.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2018, 11:26:37 am »

To puff of purple smoke, jehu, Admin, Linda, and AgathaL'Orange

I propose a truce: in order for you to abide by the rules you set out AND keep this place a SAFE space, remove ALL the threads about Suzanne's allegations until after the investigation is done. Do this and every current defender will back down. This is only the beginning. With one snap of my fingers I could have another hundred people in here engaging and interacting. I've specifically avoided asking folks to do this because I don't think it's their job.

To continue to allow this is torturing everyone in my family. Everyone. That violates basically all your rules yes?

Not panicking friend - everyone currently engaged has posted their desire for a cease fire of some kind, while others continue to lecture us about their rules, so I've posted a logical alternative.

...And now we are finally getting somewhere. Suzanne's story isn't going away no matter what troll army you hope to summon. You are panicking and I suggest you step away and consider what you are doing here, which is threatening the victim of an alleged sexual assault.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2018, 11:32:48 am »

I do not have the ability to remove any posts any more than you do.

Clearly, the facts from both sides need to be brought out in the open.

1. If Scout is not telling the truth and/or making up victims, there should be consequences.

2. If you dad acted inappropriately and ECC covered up inappropriate behavior, there should be consequences.

All this should be done transparently. As I understand it ECC has not agreed that all of the results of the investigation will be made public. Therefore, there is no transparency. If Scout is lying or crazy, as some hint, wouldn’t this be the best way to vindicate Mark?
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2018, 11:36:59 am »

I have zero power or authority in this forum.  No admin privileges.  Nothing. 
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2018, 11:42:58 am »

I have zero power or authority in this forum.  No admin privileges.  Nothing. 

I know neither of you have administrative privileges but you are the loudest voices here and have been the entire time. And Linda you understand the precedent this sets right? I wrote about this in my letter. We cannot live in a society where women can shout sexual abuse on a website and force a mam into upending his entire life and financial situation to defend himself to prove his innocence. That leads to Total bedlam
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2018, 11:43:52 am »

 And this is what ”abuse of power” looks like:

With one snap of my fingers I could have another hundred people in here engaging and interacting. I've specifically avoided asking folks to do this because I don't think it's their job.

Not to mention intimidation.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2018, 11:44:41 am »



Not panicking friend - everyone currently engaged has posted their desire for a cease fire of some kind, while others continue to lecture us about their rules, so I've posted a logical alternative.
 


I'm not buying that for a second. This is clearly an attempt to shut down channels for Suzanne to tell her story. You failed to control her on Facebook so you took your fight here. Your threats and intimidation aren't working, so now you are seeking a "ceasefire" which is really just a complete censure of Suzanne. Its not happening buddy.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2018, 11:48:57 am »

I’m using my voice and saying loudly:

Independent investigation agreed on by all involved. Transparent results.

That’s all I can do.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2018, 11:52:03 am »



Not panicking friend - everyone currently engaged has posted their desire for a cease fire of some kind, while others continue to lecture us about their rules, so I've posted a logical alternative.
 


I'm not buying that for a second. This is clearly an attempt to shut down channels for Suzanne to tell her story. You failed to control her on Facebook so you took your fight here. Your threats and intimidation aren't working, so now you are seeking a "ceasefire" which is really just a complete censure of Suzanne. Its not happening buddy.

She's not even commenting anymore here friend or even on her Facebook page. So if that was my job I already did it. I'm talking about everybody else
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2018, 11:54:02 am »

I’m using my voice and saying loudly:

Independent investigation agreed on by all involved. Transparent results.

That’s all I can do.

Then you are publicly calling for bedlam an anarchy. You want what most of the other regular users on this forum have wanted for years: the humiliation of our churches
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2018, 12:04:22 pm »


She's not even commenting anymore here friend or even on her Facebook page. So if that was my job I already did it. I'm talking about everybody else

She is free to comment on FB, here, and wherever else she pleases. Just as any of us are. Your belief that you can somehow shut this down is a fool's errand. Maybe you are used to getting what you want with a snap of your fingers, but that isn't going to happen in this forum. Again, I think its time you left before you dig yourself an even bigger hole. 
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2018, 12:15:09 pm »


She's not even commenting anymore here friend or even on her Facebook page. So if that was my job I already did it. I'm talking about everybody else

She is free to comment on FB, here, and wherever else she pleases. Just as any of us are. Your belief that you can somehow shut this down is a fool's errand. Maybe you are used to getting what you want with a snap of your fingers, but that isn't going to happen in this forum. Again, I think its time you left before you dig yourself an even bigger hole. 

 you're not reading my words friend. I never said she wasn't free too, I said she's just not. So if I wanted to shut down the debate I've effectively done that. My parents safety and Sanity is the only thing I'm concerned about it and I will not stop ever
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2018, 12:17:07 pm »

To quote you, "he is free to comment on FB, here, and wherever else he pleases. Just as any of us are."

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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2018, 12:21:51 pm »

Yeah your "truce" is a no go Jeromy. I also will voice my full support for a truly independent investigation that will either exonerate your father or prove Suzanne's allegations to be true.

So what made you ramp up your online pressure in the last week? You and your family were quiet for quite a while - just what I'd expect from a family expecting justice to win out - and then you went full tilt along with your devoted followers. Are you losing support within ECC and looking for public support, or is it something else?
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2018, 12:25:17 pm »


 you're not reading my words friend. I never said she wasn't free too, I said she's just not. So if I wanted to shut down the debate I've effectively done that. My parents safety and Sanity is the only thing I'm concerned about it and I will not stop ever

Okay, I think I understand you better. You believe that your online harassment campaign has successfully shut down Suzanne's social media posts and you are using the same tactics here. While I'm sure you've caused Suzanne a lot of anxiety, stress, and trauma, I doubt you've silenced her, and you certainly won't silence anyone in this forum. You have no leverage here.  
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2018, 12:31:31 pm »

Yeah your "truce" is a no go Jeromy. I also will voice my full support for a truly independent investigation that will either exonerate your father or prove Suzanne's allegations to be true.

So what made you ramp up your online pressure in the last week? You and your family were quiet for quite a while - just what I'd expect from a family expecting justice to win out - and then you went full tilt along with your devoted followers. Are you losing support within ECC and looking for public support, or is it something else?

Every answer to those questions is all throughout this board over the last couple of days. If you're just jumping in now you should read everything before you ask questions I've already answered the dozen times. I was quiet for months because I assumed this wouldn't go anywhere but a couple of people that don't know Suzanne or my Dad decided to jump on this and broadcast it to as many people as humanly possible. Meanwhile my own parents health and Sanity are on the very edge. So I'm doing what any good son would do boggs. Also know one asked you anyway. I specifically addressed this message to the administrators and two most frequent posters to echo what everyone's been asking for. As long as people keep keep propagating an allegation and ignoring all reason in their pursuit to destroy my father I will be here
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2018, 12:37:42 pm »


 you're not reading my words friend. I never said she wasn't free too, I said she's just not. So if I wanted to shut down the debate I've effectively done that. My parents safety and Sanity is the only thing I'm concerned about it and I will not stop ever

Okay, I think I understand you better. You believe that your online harassment campaign has successfully shut down Suzanne's social media posts and you are using the same tactics here. While I'm sure you've caused Suzanne a lot of anxiety, stress, and trauma, I doubt you've silenced her, and you certainly won't silence anyone in this forum. You have no leverage here.  

Try again. read my post, and try again. What did i say my only concern was?
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2018, 12:42:46 pm »

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Then you are publicly calling for bedlam an anarchy. You want what most of the other regular users on this forum have wanted for years: the humiliation of our churches

I am calling for an investigation that is fair to all involved (and by all I mean the women making allegations, Mark D, and ECC) and one where the results are transparent.









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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2018, 12:49:49 pm »



Try again. read my post, and try again. What did i say my only concern was?

Your parents "safety and sanity" won't improve through an online attack campaign. In fact this will probably make it worse. You are wildly stabbing a beehive and making unnecessary enemies. Again, I strongly suggest you leave before you do more damage to your family.
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