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Author Topic: What would it take for Evergreen supporters to stop using this forum?  (Read 5910 times)
Faith
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« on: March 16, 2018, 06:06:48 pm »

Hello, I recognize that I am raising a semi-controversial question, but I hope that there will not be impassioned debate or contempt thrown around. My question is for those that are supporters of Evergreen -- what would you like to see change? Do you want the forum to disappear entirely? Or just have Darling's name removed from it? Did you take issue with the forum pre-Scout's allegations?

Additionally, this question is not meant to be combative, but I am curious as to what Darling supporters think of Victim A & C (one of whom issued a statement to the Evergreen board). Do you think that these women (plus Scout) are lying? Crazy? Severely hurt? Or is this a concerted effort to remove Darling?

I am curious as to what people think and interested in a civil debate.

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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2018, 06:08:04 pm »

Additionally, does anyone believe that this is NOT Suzanne making these allegations?  I believe Jeromy floated that idea in his paper.
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2018, 08:16:40 pm »

I guess I am just feeling really sad about these questions hanging out here. 

I am sure that loyal Evergreeners do not necessarily feel like spilling their guts here, especially if we are all watching and analyzing.

I just want you all to know, as a former member of the movement for 18 years and was there when Evergreen started, I used to be in your fellowship before we were told to leave.  We just didn't fit the mold, and God was leading us out.  And I've shared enough about my story.

You know I don't agree with a bunch of stuff and the leadership structure, etc.  I suppose you read my posts about your beloved church and think I am really mean. And I've been gone so long I don't know most of you. I'm an old lady.

It took me many years to face what happened to us, try to process it. Many things have helped, not just the forum. Most of all God's loving presence. My husband and I often talk about our "journey" and how God works all things together for good, in the end. 

I just want you to know that I have been burdened to pray for you guys.  I wake up in the night, and it all seems like such a nightmare.  I have prayed for you a lot, even though it might not seem like it by my posts. 

I can't even imagine what you all are going through, and the confusion and pain of it all. 

Our relationships may not be mended until heaven, but I am looking forward to that day. 

God is Faithful.  He is proving it to me, daily, and He will prove it to you.  He hangs on to us always.  Our hope is not in people or churches or programs, ultimately.  Our hope is in Jesus.
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2018, 08:47:55 pm »

I guess I am just feeling really sad about these questions hanging out here. 

I am sure that loyal Evergreeners do not necessarily feel like spilling their guts here, especially if we are all watching and analyzing.

I just want you all to know, as a former member of the movement for 18 years and was there when Evergreen started, I used to be in your fellowship before we were told to leave.  We just didn't fit the mold, and God was leading us out.  And I've shared enough about my story.

You know I don't agree with a bunch of stuff and the leadership structure, etc.  I suppose you read my posts about your beloved church and think I am really mean. And I've been gone so long I don't know most of you. I'm an old lady.

It took me many years to face what happened to us, try to process it. Many things have helped, not just the forum. Most of all God's loving presence. My husband and I often talk about our "journey" and how God works all things together for good, in the end. 

I just want you to know that I have been burdened to pray for you guys.  I wake up in the night, and it all seems like such a nightmare.  I have prayed for you a lot, even though it might not seem like it by my posts. 

I can't even imagine what you all are going through, and the confusion and pain of it all. 

Our relationships may not be mended until heaven, but I am looking forward to that day. 

God is Faithful.  He is proving it to me, daily, and He will prove it to you.  He hangs on to us always.  Our hope is not in people or churches or programs, ultimately.  Our hope is in Jesus.

This was kind of you to write sister, thanks for taking the time to say these things:

I never said I didn't think it was Suzanne or even floated the theory - my point was this: someone almost no one on this board knows, who's made no public appearances, who has EXCLUSIVELY written things in social media, and posted her own story without a shred of evidence or real support from her family, along with other "stories" that mirrored hers exactly, but with no ACTUAL names has been instantly, unequivocally believed by basically ever member of this forum, and her small, but rabid following on social media. Meaning, a person could literally impersonate another person on social media, make up stories about other victims, provide no evidence that they were even who they were claiming to be and KNOW that at least 30-40 people would believe them. Enough to sustain an attack, on someone they hated. THERE IS NO WORD TO DESCRIBE HOW DANGEROUS THAT PRECEDENCE IS. That was the point I was trying to make. How hard you've all had to work to abandon all reason and logic and defend someone you don't know, surrounding all sorts of circumstances in her life you weren't apart, and ONLY hearing her side of everything.

NO OTHER NAMES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE INVESTIGATION. NOT. ONE. All Suzanne did was send her fake victim names to the investigator, which no lawyer would take as evidence BECAUSE THEY CAN'T INTERVIEW PEOPLE WHO REFUSE TO DISCLOSE THEIR IDENTITY.

I was an eyewitness to my father's life and work and ministry and now THIS WEBSITE is the #1 ranking on Google when you search "Mark Darling". An article calling him a sexual abuser is now all that stands online of his legacy and work. Because ONE person has posted unfounded, unproved and unnamed accusations and provided a perfect template to ruin an innocent man.

What none of you realize is that the 15 people actively using this website are not louder than the thousands upon thousands of lives he (and my mother) have touched and led to Christ. Once this film is released we won't have to have a conversation about whether or not to continue posting and defending our father on this site because it will have transformed, almost overnight, into the Mark Darling Fan Club.

And for the record, this investigator is not only digging deep into my father's life, she's digging deep into John and Suzanne's. Since almost no one on this board has ever met John or Suzanne, or even knows what they've been doing for the last 17 years since leaving Berlin, you might want to rethink how hard you support someone who's reputation you don't know at all. My dad has the finest reputation of any man I know and pretty soon the world is going to see how deep the chasm is between my father and Suzanne.

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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2018, 09:43:37 am »

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« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2018, 12:30:25 pm »

Hi Jeromy,

This was brought up on another forum I believe (although it may have been deleted? I cannot find it)

You say "NO OTHER NAMES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE INVESTIGATION." Does this mean you and your family are in contact with the investigators and the board? Is Mark in regular communication with the board on the updates to the investigation? If so, is Suzanne also provided updates?

I struggle to see how this would be considered a third party investigation if the board is providing you with updates.
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2018, 12:48:00 pm »

 
Hi Jeromy,

This was brought up on another forum I believe (although it may have been deleted? I cannot find it)

You say "NO OTHER NAMES HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE INVESTIGATION." Does this mean you and your family are in contact with the investigators and the board? Is Mark in regular communication with the board on the updates to the investigation? If so, is Suzanne also provided updates?

I struggle to see how this would be considered a third party investigation if the board is providing you with updates.
Good point, Faith. 
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