Bono Fatigue

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[nateswinton]

this is off topic for where this thread is at, but i thought this would be the best place to put it:

http://www.bonofatigue.com/

i’ve had bonofatigue for years. it’s brutal.

[Samuel Lopez De Victoria]

Nate said: “this is off topic for where this thread is at, but i thought this would be the best place to put it:



http://www.bonofatigue.com/



i’ve had bonofatigue for years. it’s brutal.”



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Nate, that is hilarious! You had me there. I thought, what new disorder is there now… I laughed my head off. [I like U2 and know someone that got to be with him at the prayer breakfast in DC where he called himself “a man of the cloth… leather!”.

[phil]

That overwhelming feeling–that something is not right. So weird that I let so many incidences pass before I finally decided to stand by my own experiences and perceptions.

My wife came to her senses before I did. though for a while we both wanted to believe we were misunderstanding weird incidences, she realized 2 + 2 didn’t = 22. I remember after most services she would be bothered by somthing the pastor said and I would defend the pastor saying things like—I know thats what he said, but I think this is what he really meant. how stupid is that?

I know there is somthing to that father /mother thing. I think most of the pastors at my gc church had disfunctional reltionships with their fathers—most of the s/g leaders as well. come to think of it — most of us have had disfunctional relationships with our fathers.

[Samuel Lopez De Victoria]

Phil said: “I know there is somthing to that father /mother thing. I think most of the pastors at my gc church had disfunctional reltionships with their fathers—most of the s/g leaders as well. come to think of it — most of us have had disfunctional relationships with our fathers.”



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I tried to tell them about their developmental deficits when I was inside of the leadership. The national leadership looked at me like deers looking at headlights.



Don’t forget there is a mother component to this also. Many GC’ers are looking for either “mother” or “father” or “both.”



I would surmise that because daddy was emotionally constipated and mom also, that child had an incomplete:

1) acquiring their “connection” database from mother at very early stages (nurture, comfort, compassion, empathy, etc).

2) acquiring their “man” approval from dad. Dad probably emotionally abandoned mom so she infantilized her sons by overprotection/control, and/or emasculated them out of anger with her dad and husband who emotionally abandoned her.



Then they come to GC looking for what they are missing.



Go figure.

[AgathaL'Orange]

Sam I think that in lots of cases the mother/father thing is true. Maybe especially of those that never can leave… that would be like leaving parents, family…

I also think that GC has played into some weird masculine stereotype for men. They are really into the uber strong men as leaders and uber docile women as followers. It’s like gender roles on steroids or something.

[Samuel Lopez De Victoria]

Agatha said: “I also think that GC has played into some weird masculine stereotype for men. They are really into the uber strong men as leaders and uber docile women as followers. It’s like gender roles on steroids or something.”

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That must have developed in some churches since I left. I believe in very strong masculinity that is gentle and wise and “poetical” too!



I also believe in “strong” femininity that provides incredible levels of beauty, nurture, connection, etc. that guys are not endowed with in terms of gender strengths. The sexes are never to be in competition. We need each other, as God made us interdependent. True manhood is gentle with women like Jesus was and celebrates her womanhood. I am more man because of my wife. She’s an incredible woman! I am blessed from God!