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OneOfMany
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« on: May 20, 2018, 10:24:21 am »

https://minnesotaplaylist.com/magazine/article/2010/what-if-you-reviewed-church-services

I never read this review before. It left me sad. Someone walks into The Rock and this is what they hear:

"He (Mark Darling) then proceeded to offer up some concrete advice for keeping one’s head in the game, which to my ear sounded like a Christian version of Zen mindfulness, confirming my suspicion that the best aspects of religion tend to mirror one another across the world.

"Communal uplift was achieved. Stories were told. A group of humans heard about shades of themselves, laughed, got serious, and fed some energy back onto the stage" 

"I walked out with one of my boilerplate takes: this thing worked on its own terms. Theater is not about chicanery, it’s actually the opposite, it is groovy. And the Rock fit the bill."


Where is the gospel?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2018, 12:19:52 pm »

Hi OneOfMany Smiley,

I read the article. I think it's worth noting that this was a non-believing theater critic who had pre-decided to critique this event as theater. He admits so at the start:

"...I looked for signs of bad theater. For this was theater: one-man semi-improv, in costume, with no props and little to accentuate his message other than amplification and basic lighting."

And I'm assuming you added "Where is the gospel?" at the end of your post to imply that Mark perhaps ignored the gospel altogether, or perhaps he did a poor job conveying it, or maybe if another preacher in another church in another denomination had this same opportunity then this theater critic would surely have left with a better understanding of it and would have noted it in his article.

I think that's a bit unfair. We don't know at all what Mark preached or what the sermon or series was on*. We do know that Jesus and his disciples preached and performed many miracles and still most people's ears were shut to what they had to say and obtuse to the gospel. In my own evangelistic efforts as well I've encountered more rejection than acceptance, and I think I have the gift of evangelism Cheesy. I can't really fault Mark that this one theater critic didn't leave the church writing an article about the gospel.

*though I'm willing to bet they recorded it and if you were truly interested you could probably find it.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2018, 12:43:19 pm »

You are right that I did make assumptions. I assumed that the critic might have mentioned even if it irritated him had the gospel been preached.

When I think of Evergreen and Rock church services I do think of them as theater. Which I find sad. When I attended people commented on the speaker and the music and how good they felt when they left. It was as if we were critiquing a movie or theater production. And that is why the article made me sad.

It seemed fitting that the writer went to evaluate a church service as theater because that is what services have become in churches like Evergreen.

Does that make sense?
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2018, 03:43:16 pm »

You are right that I did make assumptions. I assumed that the critic might have mentioned even if it irritated him had the gospel been preached.

When I think of Evergreen and Rock church services I do think of them as theater. Which I find sad. When I attended people commented on the speaker and the music and how good they felt when they left. It was as if we were critiquing a movie or theater production. And that is why the article made me sad.

It seemed fitting that the writer went to evaluate a church service as theater because that is what services have become in churches like Evergreen.

Does that make sense?

It is also sad that the Rock and MD get criticized for speaking truth from scripture.  People get offended when MD speaks common sense ways to apply biblical truths to their lives.  Truth is not a super popular ideology these days.  That is what is sad.  People do not want absolutes, truth, or be told how to apply truths to their own personal lives, it offends people. 
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« Reply #4 on: May 20, 2018, 04:20:38 pm »

You are right that I did make assumptions. I assumed that the critic might have mentioned even if it irritated him had the gospel been preached.

When I think of Evergreen and Rock church services I do think of them as theater. Which I find sad. When I attended people commented on the speaker and the music and how good they felt when they left. It was as if we were critiquing a movie or theater production. And that is why the article made me sad.

It seemed fitting that the writer went to evaluate a church service as theater because that is what services have become in churches like Evergreen.

Does that make sense?


Therefore in order to please man and not God you avoid sharing his word in favor of talking about your own life?

It is also sad that the Rock and MD get criticized for speaking truth from scripture.  People get offended when MD speaks common sense ways to apply biblical truths to their lives.  Truth is not a super popular ideology these days.  That is what is sad.  People do not want absolutes, truth, or be told how to apply truths to their own personal lives, it offends people. 
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