Out the ECC Board of Trustees - No Transparency, No Justice

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[Greentruth]

Blonde did not start this forum.

Never said he did, but he was apart of the forum in the early part of the so called come back from what I can see

Blonde may post here, but we also have a large number of Mark Darling's family members posting here as well. In some ways this is an official communications forum for the Darling family members who are still allowed to speak and not under investigation for misconduct. I'm glad so many of Marl Darling's family members feel comfortable posting here. The Darling family endorsement of this forum is very heartening, especially for those of us taught at GC that pastors are the authority and voice of God in your life. Many of the posts on this forum should be treated as the very Words of God and you should not hesitate to apply them to your life.

Peace be unto you all, brothers and sisters.

You must not have been here for awhile. I think blonde has had more posts here in recent, than all MD family combined. That’s saying a lot when blonde is the attacker, and MD family have been on the receiving end. Talk later when there is actually something of worth to discuss

[ShineTheLight]

Just to keep us all on task, my offer still stands.  I have 2 confirmed names of ECC non-staff BOT members.  If I can get to a majority (at least 3 of 5), I'll post the names on this forum. Bonus points for the name of the BOT member from The Rock.  I'm 100% sure at least some participants/lurkers in this forum know who he (no doubt it my mind it's a "he").  It would be really interesting if there were pictures on FB of the Rock BOT member having Christmas Dinner with his Pastor & family from a few months ago.  But yeah..I'm sure he's an impartial judge..sure..no need to recuse himself..

[LisaFeist]

Yes! Ululating is catching on! Please no more of the word caterwauling! I can’t say it anymore without laughing! The horse is dead on caterwauling. And yes obviously people have more inside info than you know about!

So back to STL’s initial post asking all members to rise up!! You are an inspiration, STL, and it is working!

[Greentruth]

Yes! Ululating is catching on! Please no more of the word caterwauling! I can’t say it anymore without laughing! The horse is dead on caterwauling. And yes obviously people have more inside info than you know about!

So back to STL’s initial post asking all members to rise up!! You are an inspiration, STL, and it is working!

That’s why I like caterwauling as it represents this forum well

[Greentruth]

Just to keep us all on task, my offer still stands.  I have 2 confirmed names of ECC non-staff BOT members.  If I can get to a majority (at least 3 of 5), I'll post the names on this forum. Bonus points for the name of the BOT member from The Rock.  I'm 100% sure at least some participants/lurkers in this forum know who he (no doubt it my mind it's a "he").  It would be really interesting if there were pictures on FB of the Rock BOT member having Christmas Dinner with his Pastor & family from a few months ago.  But yeah..I'm sure he's an impartial judge..sure..no need to recuse himself..

Bonus points? People’s lives are being devastated and you mimics and mock with this kind of childish game. You have no desire for righteousness or justice, you just want to inflict pain. Are you blonde in disguise, it would seem so.

[ShineTheLight]

Nope, not Blonde.  Just someone who finds it offensive that a man gets to appoint one of his own judges.  I'm sure all accused of a crime would appreciate that opportunity...and if there's nothing to hide....

[Huldah]

So this may be the reasoning behind this all of a sudden necessity to know who is on the bot.

Well, it isn't really "all of a sudden." The question about the identities of the trustees was first raised shortly after ECC announced that it was hiring a lawyer to investigate. It wasn't that anyone was seeking to influence them; it was that the secrecy suggested the potential to sweep the findings (should they prove to be unfavorable to Mark) under the rug.

[Heidi]

Keep on track with this thread-
It is not about Blonde.
Blonde has NOTHING to do with the investigation.
This thread is about the ECC Board of trustees.  The Pastor appointed board of trustee's.
Members not only do not vote for the members, they also do not have the right to know who they are??
It is about the ECC Board of Trustees and the question is- will they be transparent with the investigator's report?

Is this God honoring stewardship of God's money?   Evergreen members- you have a vote with your tithe and your feet.

Heidi.  Your better than this. Your a good person who just wants to see the total truth of all this. I know who the bot is from the location I used to go to five years ago. Until the results AND consequences are revealed it just doesn’t matter.  Do you think they won’t be known by any member when there isn’t concern over what someone like blonde could do? Don’t get pulled into this narrative of deception.


Greentruth- I am not sure what you mean?  You are better that this??  I do want the whole truth in all of this.  Truth does matter, and I disagree that Until  the results and consequences are revealed it just doesn't matter.  When a money payout was offered to my brother and sister-in-law of $ 50,000, to not talk about why they left Evergreen, I felt betrayed by Evergreen and I was disgusted by that offer, and glad my brother and his wife refused it.  Why was money offered to keep them quiet???  It was not a severance offer.  They were not employees of Evergreen anymore.  They were GCM employees. 
What other things are being covered up?  I will say it again.  If you are a Evergreen member who is bothered by the lack of transparency and the LONG wait and see what happens mentality.  You can determine before the lord if you feel comfortable giving God's money to an organization that may not be walking in the light in a God honoring way. 

[Rebel in a Good Way]

I have to say that the discussions we've had on this forum about boards, their function, the legal aspects, and the ethics of them have really caused my husband and I to do some research about charities we are supporting.  

Being on a board might involve some challenges and people shouldn't accept the position if they're not willing to do hard work and possibly hold others accountable.  If I were on the board, I certainly wouldn't need to be protected.  And if "outsiders" had a perspective that was helpful, why not hear it?  I don't understand this control and fear of discourse.  

There is also irony in that Jeromy & friends say that people who won't reveal their identities are cowards, but apparently that doesn't apply to board members.  Also, he doxxed me (a private individual with no leadership position in this matter) on this forum so I don't understand why BOT members deserve more privacy than a private individual?  At least there are legitimate reasons to identify the BOT, there's no reason to name me other than personal revenge or harassment.  

[LisaFeist]

Greentruth, you and your family are not the only ones who have felt at one point or another their lives were/are being destroyed. I understand that’s hard for you to fathom. (And I do not wish a destroyed life on anyone) (and for the love, we all get that caterwauling is you’re favorite word. Just stop using it I get uncomfortable FOR you when I see it for the 58th time😑)

[BTDT]

Please no more of the word caterwauling!

Hey, not so fast! I was going to suggest that the moderators open up a new forum for members to vent and rant, and call it the Cater Wall. It would have a few supporting rules, which would of course be called the Cater Pillars. 

-B

[Greentruth]

Heide, IF what you claim in your posts is true, and IF Suzanne’s claims are true, there will be no need of this supposed hunt for the bot names. I’m very sure Justice, one way or another will be served, unlike the social media circus this has been. The damage is done, no turning back from any of this for anyone on either side. The only ones that seem to be enjoying this are a few here with an ax to grind. When the results come out, regardless of the content, this forum will continue on, caterwauling up a storm.Were you ever bullied? This is the definition of this forum. I find it really hard to believe your a part of it.

[LisaFeist]

Greentruth, nobody is bullying you by having rhetoric on your posts. That is juvenile at best to claim that.

[Greentruth]

Greentruth, nobody is bullying you by having rhetoric on your posts. That is juvenile at best to claim that.

No one has bullied me, I’m talking about the attitude on this forum in general. A bunch of caterwauling, lost people with nothing better to do than attack a church

[araignee19]

I'll repeat again to everyone (including myself, cus oh I'm tempted right now):

The fastest way to keep people like greentruth from having a platform to attack from and from hijacking the thread is to ignore them. They lose their power when you do this. Keep them on topic, and don't entertain their personal attacks or thread hijacks.

[LisaFeist]

Blanket statements like that also help nothing. I have plenty of wonderful things to do in my life. Interesting you would say that when you respond a lot. Did you mean that you don’t have anything better to do in your life or was that just a misunderstanding on my part and you are just standing up for what you believe in?

[LisaFeist]

Araignee, I knooooow!!! You are so right.  It’s really hard. But I hear you and you’re right. Thanks!

[Greentruth]

Thank you 19, as this is going to be the least of the issues the way it looks.

[Huldah]

The only ones that seem to be enjoying this are a few here with an ax to grind.

I don't know anyone who's enjoying this. It's profoundly sad, and one way or another, it's also an outrage. Either an innocent man has been falsely accused, or else multiple women have suffered an injustice at his hands and are now suffering further injustices at the hands of his followers. Neither scenario gives me any pleasure, and I'm sure most others here feel the same.

[freisetzen]

I am an elder at our church (not a GCx church) and it's certainly not secret. We are announced at least twice yearly and several times brought forward to pray over the church and it's members at various times in the year. Anyone could get the names of the elder board member or not at the church office on any given day.

Just giving an example to showcase how strange it is that ECC hides it's elders from anyone. I see GTAs point that now might be a scary time to reveal names, but elders are mature grown ups who've been around the block a few times. We can deal with crap-mail and yucky calls. It's part of the job to help lead through these times, leading also means helping the immature who might throw sticks and stones along the way.