Bill Young-- Forgiveness message

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[AgathaL'Orange]

This is a pretty disturbing message, although I think he means it to be encouraging. 

He discusses how they have spanked their kids so much, his son at 11 rarely gets a spanking anymore (first off, that's too old, IMO).  Second, he uses this as an illustration.  If he spanked his son and then forgave him, if he asked two more times to be forgiven, he would spank his son because it would be irritating.  It's supposed to show us how God feels about people who think they need to confess a lot. 

It's just a fundamentally violent and oppressive way to talk about your kids and God and really bothers me.

I know he's trying to say that once saved we should have no fear of punishment, but he manages to turn it into, "You idiot!  Why are you always confessing and asking for forgiveness?  It's so irritating!"  A truly loving parent would address the issue in a compassionate way, not with more punishment.  Talk about mixed messages. 

[France]

I think that this message was a good one. I couldn't tell if Bill was serious about spanking his son or if he was just using it as an extreme example.