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« on: June 10, 2018, 12:51:42 am »

A few years ago, Pastor Mark Bowen of Evergreen ripped into me (via email) that I actually was judged by God very harshly that I was a person to be judged since I questioned Mark Darling’s overall life and biblical intentions. I did not like Mark Darling. Now, the roles have been reversed. I question if Mark Bowen and Mark Darling, if ever each was a Christian that followed the true Jesus. Does a man of God (Mark Darling) do what he does to 9-10 women? After Susan had the news come out, she says on her Twitter page that another woman says it happened to her. So, it could be 9-11 women that have been assaulted by Mark Darling.

Mark Darling should resign TODAY, and stop paying for his son’s Jeromy’s farm in Prior Lake (’12-acre farm) as he is a secret board member. Jeromy on his Instagram page is ALWAYS begging for money and yet he has no worries about the rental payment to the owners of the 12 ’12-acre farm. It was released that Mark Darling is a member of Jeromy’s non-profit?

I ask Evergreen Church to look into, and ask Susan to ask about commingling of funds from Evergreen to the Jeromy Darling ministry. Funny how a ’12-acre farm has no issues of payment, but the funds for money for gas is always asked for on JD Instagram.

Money is the truest god to the Darling family. Like I said, or wrote before, look into the life and commingling of Evergreen funds into JD’s ministry.

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« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2018, 12:59:00 am »

For those who don't know:

Definition of legal commingle is: to combine (funds or properties) into a common fund or stock. Proceeds from the sale have been commingled with other funds. i.e. MD to JD funds as, MD is a secret member of JD board of directors.

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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2018, 07:02:09 am »

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A few years ago, Pastor Mark Bowen of Evergreen ripped into me (via email) that I actually was judged by God very harshly that I was a person to be judged since I questioned Mark Darling’s overall life and biblical intentions.

To clarify, you received an email from an ECC pastor long after you left?

I ask because we did as well. In 2012. 7 years after we left. The envelope had 2 letters. One from Darling and one from Knox.

Anyone else receive letters?

Stay anonymous, people!
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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2018, 08:55:52 am »

Blonde, could you explain a bit more? As an outsider, I'm having some trouble following this.

Is the farm part of Jeromy's ministry or is it owned by Jeromy personally?

Are you saying that Mark Darling is diverting funds from ECC to Jeromy's ministry and/or to Jeromy Darling personally with or without the knowledge of the BOT and the other pastors? (My understanding is that it's not illegal for one nonprofit to donate excess funds to another nonprofit, although I'm sure there are legal restrictions in place that govern such transfers.)

And, of course, I'm wondering how you came by this knowledge.

I'm not challenging your information. I'd just like some clarification.
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« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2018, 03:48:31 pm »

First, let me say that it's been alleged that "Blonde" who started this thread has sent hundreds of nasty emails to the Darling family. If this is true, I condemn such behavior and hope Blonde will apologize and repent; whatever wrongs have been done to him do not justify wronging someone else.

2nd, because financial misbehavior has been alleged and there is a clear possibility of nepotism, I did do a little research on the Prior Lake farm.  - Note- I will share no names to avoid doxxing - This is what I did - you can easily replicate my actions and find out the same information I will not post here:

1) Did a google search for Jeromy Darling Prior Lake - this being the internet, everything is out there and sure enough, an address comes up in the first or 2nd page of search results
2) If you search the county property tax records for the address, it turns out said property, an 11 acre farm/house in Prior Lake was purchased in 2017 for about $560K
3) The owner of said farm appears to have the same name as a non-staff ministry volunteer at The Rock.

Based on what I found, I would assume someone who worships at the The Rock (with some financial means apparently) bought the 11 acre property and is letting Jeromy and family live there for a below market rate (given I'm assuming Jeromy couldn't afford the market rate rent for a 4600 sq ft. home on 11 acres in Prior Lake - likely several thousand dollars per month).  It would not be unusual for an adoring member to let a pastor/ministry leader use a property or other assets for free or at a discounted rate (I have done so myself, viewing it as a favor to a good friend). To believe wrong doing, I believe one would have to establish that the funds this non-staff volunteer purchased said home/farm with somehow came from ministry funds which I have no ability to track down and no reason to believe.
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« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2018, 06:02:03 pm »

If Jeromy Darling is living in a lavish house in which he pays little or no rent, it is possible that he has the requirement to file gift tax form 709 for the rent that has been gifted to him.  If the recipient of such gifts fails to file and pay the appropriate tax, such tax burden can sometimes be passed on to the donor of the gift.

I remember attending an HSLT in the early 2000 where a free-will offering was taken to cover Jeromy's car repairs.  It would be interesting how many unmarked gifts like this Jeromy Darling receives annually and whether he gives to Cesar what is Cesar's by paying the appropriate tax.  This is somewhat remeniscent of members leaving cash gifts at the McCotter residence in the early days of GCx.  Such cash gifts were untracable and likely become income that was not taxed.

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One form of gift people often overlooked is the ability to live in a property rent-free due to the generosity of a family member. While not covered in guidance published by the IRS, this concept has been explored and somewhat fleshed out by the courts. In Dickman v. Commissioner, 465 U.S. 330 (1984), the Supreme Court ruled that where a parent grants a child rent-free, indefinite use of commercial property which has a reasonable rental, there is a clear transfer of a valuable property right. That measurable economic value associated with the use of the property transferred must be reported on a gift tax return. In Dickman, the Court made broad statements that suggested gift tax statutes apply to all situations where one person allows another person use of property without compensation, specifically stating that "[t]he right to the use of $100,000 without charge is a valuable interest in the money lent, as so much as the rent-free use of property consisting of land and buildings."  465 U.S. 337.  Support for this concept also appears in a Wineman v. Commissioner, T.C. Memo. 2000-193 (2000), where the court found that a taxpayer renting Ranch property to her children at below-market-rate constituted a reportable gift - Rent-Free Living - Gift Tax Implications, Christopher Byrne PLLC.
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« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2018, 07:17:11 pm »

What a revealing thread. Blonde (an abuser of the Darling family) throws out some accusation about co-mingling of funds and then the crew here do the rest. For the record, I know nothing about JD's living arrangements, but I find it amazing how this lynch mob wants to chase down info on whether someone is being too generous to a man who has given his life to Christian ministry.

JD is headed to an Indian reservation Friday to serve these people for 4 days. Watch the video, see their need, and realize JD is the only one of us going to help meet some of those needs. Then tell me you're on the right side of God with this crusade against him. The video highlights the plight of the people on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation: https://bit.ly/2xXAkOU

Better yet, instead of doing Blondes dirty work, maybe you should consider giving to this: http://www.thesalvageproject.org/donate
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« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2018, 07:32:16 pm »

What a revealing thread. Blonde (an abuser of the Darling family) throws out some accusation about co-mingling of funds and then the crew here do the rest. For the record, I know nothing about JD's living arrangements, but I find it amazing how this lynch mob wants to chase down info on whether someone is being too generous to a man who has given his life to Christian ministry.

JD is headed to an Indian reservation Friday to serve these people for 4 days. Watch the video, see their need, and realize JD is the only one of us going to help meet some of those needs. Then tell me you're on the right side of God with this crusade against him. The video highlights the plight of the people on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation: https://bit.ly/2xXAkOU

Better yet, instead of doing Blondes dirty work, maybe you should consider giving to this: http://www.thesalvageproject.org/donate


I'm glad you are bringing awareness to the struggles of Native Peoples in our country DLM.  However, are you truly advocating for the people of Pine Ridge Reservation right now or using their poverty to praise Jeromy?

Jeromy has stated on this forum that he doesn't need to answer to people that hold him accountable, including Karl Quickert and Ryan Stahl.  He said that he answers to God and God alone.  Karl and Ryan are 2 of the 3 men on the board of thesalvageproject.  Personally, I don't donate to organizations that lack accountability - there are many other great organizations that individuals can give to in their support of Native Peoples.  Organizations that are founded, run by, and support Native Americans.
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« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2018, 07:34:26 pm »

For the record, I know nothing about JD's living arrangements, but I find it amazing how this lynch mob wants to chase down info on whether someone is being too generous to a man who has given his life to Christian ministry.



I doubt anyone is giving to that after being on the receiving end of so much of his “ministry” here lately
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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2018, 07:44:09 pm »

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What a revealing thread. Blonde (an abuser of the Darling family) throws out some accusation about co-mingling of funds and then the crew here do the rest. For the record, I know nothing about JD's living arrangements, but I find it amazing how this lynch mob wants to chase down info on whether someone is being too generous to a man who has given his life to Christian ministry.

Probably best not to lump everyone as having a dog in this fight, I have no idea what this is about. I was, however, interested in what blonde said about receiving an e-mail from an ECC pastor long after he left because that happened to us (we left in 2005 and received letters from Brent and Mark in 2012) and seems relevant to the idea that there is some inappropriate controlling behavior happening on the part of leaders.
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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2018, 07:54:09 pm »

DLM, Thank you for sharing this. It is a great testimony that Jesus Love in JD heart is as strong as ever. My prayers that God will work through him in amazing ways.
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2018, 08:06:56 pm »


JD is headed to an Indian reservation Friday to serve these people for 4 days. Watch the video, see their need, and realize JD is the only one of us going to help meet some of those needs. Then tell me you're on the right side of God with this crusade against him. The video highlights the plight of the people on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation: https://bit.ly/2xXAkOU




Oh Really? JD is the only one helping the Pine Ridge Indians? Really?

https://friendsofpineridgereservation.org/
http://www.tankabar.com/cgi-bin/nanf/public/viewStory.cvw?sessionid=0311cc4050cb6dfccaab29448748c1b153303a&storyid=348351

http://www.circleoflove.today/

http://indianyouth.org/programs/detail/emergency-assistance-programs

There are more but I shall end with this link. Please read it.

https://notesfromthemadabstractdark.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/the-failure-of-christian-groups-and-non-profits-on-pine-ridge-reservation/


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« Reply #12 on: June 14, 2018, 07:05:04 am »

What a revealing thread. Blonde (an abuser of the Darling family) throws out some accusation about co-mingling of funds and then the crew here do the rest. For the record, I know nothing about JD's living arrangements, but I find it amazing how this lynch mob wants to chase down info on whether someone is being too generous to a man who has given his life to Christian ministry.

JD is headed to an Indian reservation Friday to serve these people for 4 days. Watch the video, see their need, and realize JD is the only one of us going to help meet some of those needs. Then tell me you're on the right side of God with this crusade against him. The video highlights the plight of the people on the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation: https://bit.ly/2xXAkOU

Better yet, instead of doing Blondes dirty work, maybe you should consider giving to this: http://www.thesalvageproject.org/donate


I think you meant to say “an alleged abuser”, but even if he did all those things, I don’t know why you are bringing it up on social media. Don’t you know that “your sin against God is so much greater than anything anyone else has done?” After all, “he absorbed death, can’t you absorb the sin of somebody else?”
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« Reply #13 on: June 14, 2018, 07:20:16 am »

Oh Really? JD is the only one helping the Pine Ridge Indians? Really?

OneofMany, your reply is nonsensical in so many ways, but I'll stick with the main point. As I stated originally, "JD is the only one of us going to help meet some of those needs."

Please provide me links to your ministry service in this reservation and I'll be interested.
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« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2018, 07:22:38 am »

I think you meant to say “an alleged abuser”, but even if he did all those things, I don’t know why you are bringing it up on social media. Don’t you know that “your sin against God is so much greater than anything anyone else has done?” After all, “he absorbed death, can’t you absorb the sin of somebody else?”

Linda, your cynicism is getting the best of you.
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« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2018, 07:24:08 am »

Oh Really? JD is the only one helping the Pine Ridge Indians? Really?

OneofMany, your reply is nonsensical in so many ways, but I'll stick with the main point. As I stated originally, "JD is the only one of us going to help meet some of those needs."

Please provide me links to your ministry service in this reservation and I'll be interested.
And if you could also provide us pictures of the $560K house with pool and hot tub someone gave you I'd appreciate that as well OneofMany - you slacker  Wink
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« Reply #16 on: June 14, 2018, 07:29:59 am »

And if you could also provide us pictures of the $560K house with pool and hot tub someone gave you I'd appreciate that as well OneofMany - you slacker  Wink

Just curious Shine, do you consider it doxing someone when you provide step-by-step instructions on finding an individuals address - in the same post that you acknowledge Blonde (who started this thread) is a serial abuser of the person you are doxing? Just exactly what are you trying to "ShineTheLight" on?
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« Reply #17 on: June 14, 2018, 07:32:26 am »

DLM, the point of this thread isn't "the Darlings are incapable of doing anything good, ever." This thread is concerned with whether or not Jeromy may be committing legal, ethical, and financial violations that need to be dealt with before they come back to haunt him in a catastrophic way. If this is true--which I have no way of knowing--he needs a good lawyer, not a missions jaunt.

I hope the point is moot and that everything is actually in order. But if it isn't, then someone in the know needs to be a real friend and advisor who'll tell him the hard truth and urge him to deal with it, instead of a cheerleader who thinks he can do no wrong.
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« Reply #18 on: June 14, 2018, 07:34:39 am »

DLM, the point of this thread isn't "the Darlings are incapable of doing anything good, ever." This thread is concerned with whether or not Jeromy may be committing legal, ethical, and financial violations that need to be dealt with before they come back to haunt him in a catastrophic way. If this is true--which I have no way of knowing--he needs a good lawyer, not a missions jaunt.

I hope the point is moot and that everything is actually in order. But if it isn't, then someone in the know needs to be a real friend and advisor who'll tell him the hard truth and urge him to deal with it, instead of a cheerleader who thinks he can do no wrong.

Well how kind. All along you all simply had his best interests in mind. Isn't that wonderful. I'm sure he thanks you.
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2018, 07:39:17 am »

And if you could also provide us pictures of the $560K house with pool and hot tub someone gave you I'd appreciate that as well OneofMany - you slacker  Wink

Just curious Shine, do you consider it doxing someone when you provide step-by-step instructions on finding an individuals address - in the same post that you acknowledge Blonde (who started this thread) is a serial abuser of the person you are doxing? Just exactly what are you trying to "ShineTheLight" on?

Correction: She acknowledged that it HAD BEEN ALLEGED.

Also, I’m still curious about the part (as mentioned in blonde’s first sentence) where pastors contact congregants years after they leave. Would love for this thread to address that topic.
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