My point is, if this is a forum dedicated to finding the truth of GCX,
we need to see it's leaders and congregations as people, not paint them as monsters or villains.
This forum is NOT dedicated to "finding the truth of GCx".
The purpose of this forum is for:
1.
Former members of a GCx church to
2.
Discuss problems they have had with
3. The church’s
practice4. and
theology.
I would venture to say that before leaving most everyone posting here spent many hours and perhaps many years trying to help GCx elders correct their unsound teaching that has damaged many lives for DECADES.
The elders chose not to correct their error because they SINCERELY believe they are right and those calling their teaching unsound are wrong.
Having strong theological differences and pointing out damage this theology has caused to the lives and faith of hundreds of people is NOT painting them as monsters.
It is painting some of their theology as flawed. Maybe they are terrible people, or maybe they are just misled or deceived, that is not up to us to decide. The purpose of this forum is to discuss the bad theology and practice and warn others about it. Hence: gcmwarning.com
On the other hand, people who disagree with the purpose of this forum have repeatedly, for years, come on the forum, and questioned the character and sanity of those who post here.
If you want to talk about people portraying others as villains and monsters, you might start here with things Jeromy Darling said, while, I might add, on the payroll of ECC.
Here is a short list I put together last June.
To Huldah: "You've relentlessly hounded my father and my churches and this movement. You DID force me here when you embraced and spread a lie. Show me the decency of READING the entire letter, not skimming it (otherwise proving you're terrified of the truth)."
To Me: "You want what most of the other regular users on this forum have wanted for years: the humiliation of our churches."
To GodIsFaithful: "I'm sure Jesus and Paul and any number of other godly men may have appeared that way at times - you apparently haven't spent enough time in the Word as I'm only trying to model their behavior."
To Boggs: "This entire website stands as a billboard for the the loveless Christian life"
To g_prince: "I am however beginning to wonder how many pastors have been spiritually abused by their former congregants..."
On why he can violate the rules of the forum and out members: "First of all I outed a two people. Chris and Jason. Secondly, I do not recognize the owners of this website or this website itself as having any Authority in my life, Ergo I dont recognize the rules they set out. "
To me: "And for the record, when you disagree with a public figure - NO ONE EVEN NEEDS TO KNOW. The fact that you think your opinion about a pastor or politician, posted on a website, is valuable to the world is the height of hubris. You've never run a church and don't have the first idea how to. Leaving me to conclude that the only reason you continue posting on this website is for your own personal validation and self gratitude. In fact, since everyone on this site seems so interested in the latest spiritual topics and terms, let me introduce a new one here: spiritual masturbation."
About Suzanne making up the story: "I KNOW no names have been submitted because the evidence points exclusively to Suzanne making all of the victims up. "
About investigation the character of an alleged victim AND HER HUSBAND: "And for the record, this investigator is not only digging deep into my father's life, she's digging deep into John and Suzanne's."
To the group: "Since there is no Biblical basis for running a site like this I can safely assume that most users on here are either grossly ignorant or are not real Christians at all. You guys could all be out volunteering, preaching the Gospel, saving souls, doing anything other than posting here over and over again, spiritually masturbating each other in an effort to validate your self worth and your knowledge, while perpetuating (or silently approving of) disgusting lies about my father."
To me: "Linda, disagreeing isn't hate. Even I know that. You've spent more time on this website than you ever spent in a GCC church or listening to my father speak. You have reserved much of your ire for a man you barely even had any conversations with, and you've dished out all your advice and warnings having never founded or a led a church on any conceivable level. This shows empirically that you're both filled with pride AND hate while simultaneously caught up in a savior's complex the likes of which I've never seen before."
Calling Suzanne a liar: "Suzanne said that my dad asked about her and her current boyfriend's sexual positions, but she didn't have a boyfriend when she met my dad and she and John did not have sex until they were married. Know how I know that? Because Suzanne used to tease John about their wedding night. See John was a virgin. And up until they first had sex he thought women got pregnant through their belly button. I actually always found that very endearing about John and his commitment to sexual Integrity before marriage. Anyone care to unravel this lie?"
Suggesting Suzanne is mentally ill" "See either Suzanne thinks we're to stupid to catch these things, or she's struggling mentally much more than any of you realize - which one is worse?"
To me when I quoted something his dad said to Terry and I at our last private meeting. Jeromy was not present.: "Another fat stinking lie Linda. My goodness. There's enough (Ad nauseam) lies from you, just in this website, about my father, to fill a volume of defamation lawsuits. This is so fantastical and so disgusting I don't know whether to laugh or weep but it's now your MO."
I ask you, who is doing the judging?
Who is doing the vilifying?
Who is trying to portray others as unsaved villains?
It is not the former members who are trying to discuss problems they have experienced with the teaching and practice of GCx.