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Author Topic: Have You Been SCAMMED By False Spiritual Authority  (Read 2049 times)
Janet Easson Martin
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« on: January 03, 2015, 08:01:56 pm »

Have You Been SCAMMED

By False Spiritual Authority?


Today I received a call from a dutifully polite police officer patiently and officially notifying me that I had received a Federal Jury Summons to appear as a juror one day this past December.  As the police scanner alternately beeped and hissed in the background, he professionally addressed me and explained in detail for half-an-hour the issue and consequences of my dilemma.  I didn't want to be disrespectful to this police officer, so I listened, and kept my questions to a minimum.  He carefully but unclearly explained at length the dire circumstances.  He said because I had been summoned back in November, and had accepted by certified mail (with a signed receipt in his possession), to appear as a Juror in Federal Court ; and had failed to appear I was now (according to January 2014 Law) fined $250 on two different violations, totaling $500.  Though I could not recall receiving a summons of any kind, I didn't want to be uncooperative with the law.  The officer told me I could submit to pay these fees (by buying a "govt." card from the local chain drugstore & calling him back with the numbers on it); or be apprehended by officers by way of arrest to serve 6-30 days in a certain county jail.  Now, I've never been to jail and my husband (who I had signaled to pick up the phone and heard the whole conversation) didn't want me to have to go either, so we listened to the options we had.  Be arrested or pay the fines.  We then asked him a couple of questions to verify the authenticity of the notification including his address and barracks number, which he rushed through. But, when questioned by us why his official barracks number and official badge number he gave us were the same, he abruptly went silent and hung up the phone.  

Oh my goodness!  We realized we had been Scammed... almost... by False Civil Authority!!  

By finally questioning this "officer" about his true AUTHORITY, we found out not only did he have NONE, but he had been impersonating a Civil Authority.  His police authority-like tone and police acronym vocabulary along with the sounds of a beeping scanner/radio in the background took us in long enough to listen to his persuasive scheme.  He lured us into an illusion.  He "hood-winked" us for nearly 30 minutes. Perhaps the bait was the fear of possibly going to jail.  The Cunning Impression created by deceit, fear, made-up evidence, false police authority and tactics almost led us astray from the Truth and into being robbed of probably more than $500.  There never really was a summons to me.  There was no such certified mail or signature. Police don't have you pay on a card from the chain drugstores. (But you probably already knew that.) Nor do they call you over the telephone to notify you that they are going to apprehend you.  We confirmed  the things they claimed were false by checking known sources of TRUE Police who possess TRUE Civil Authority.  

I believe God had some GOOD purpose in mind to allow this strange and confusing intrusion in our lives, and now feel confident he wanted me to relate and compare it to FALSE Spiritual Authority.  

I believe he wants to ask you:  Have you been scammed by False Spiritual Authority?



Be back to look at some similarities...
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2015, 02:20:40 pm »

Janet, I'm looking forward to reading your similarities.

For the benefit of anyone else reading this, the "missed jury duty" scam is actually pretty common. Another common scam is a call from IRS impersonators. This scam is so sophisticated that it even shows a valid IRS phone number on CallerID. Not to mention all those emails that tell us to verify our account details on credit cards or PayPal accounts. Ah, yes, our earthly treasures are a constant target for thieves and moths... we were warned about that!

But spiritual scamming is the worst of all. It can ruin our lives, family relationships, friendships, goals, dreams, and even our usefulness to the Kingdom. GC is not the only scam I regret falling for. Those legalistic, graceless childrearing gurus of the 80's and 90's were even worse. The Ezzos and their "first time obedience, spank until the child's will is broken" advice come to mind. I wish I had never heard of them.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2015, 12:43:21 am »

I'm not trying to hijack your topic, Janet, but I hope you'll allow me to point out something interesting I just came across.

In my previous post, I mentioned the Ezzos ("Growing Kids God's Way") as additional examples of false teachers. I just came across an interesting parallel between the Ezzos and GC.

Quote from: Ezzo.info
Gary Ezzo continually demands that people who are critical of him go through a Matthew 18 process...Many individuals have attempted to go through the Matthew 18 process with Gary-even though this does not apply to public leaders whose materials are widely distributed. Yet, in the interest of going the extra mile, pastors, elders, critics, and friends have attempted this process.

What does apply to Gary Ezzo and other rebellious Christian leaders and false teachers is 1 Timothy 5:19-20, which states: "Do not entertain an accusation against an elder unless it is brought by two or three witnesses. Those who sin are to be rebuked publicly, so that the others may take warning." In short, Gary Ezzo is to be rebuked publicly.

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Gary Ezzo uses reconciliation meetings as a way of confusing his critics and avoiding true accountability. In mid-1995, for example, Ezzo met with the elders at John MacArthur's Grace Community Church.... Ezzo assured the elders that he was going to rectify their concerns. Instead, he  began a quiet campaign against those who had raised concerns...

The behavior sounds eerily familiar.
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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2015, 08:24:11 am »

Huldah,

That's the purpose of this website - so go for it!

Very interesting.  Important point that bears highlighting.  Twisting scripture for one's own gain and to SUPPRESS OTHERS.  Certainly not wisdom from above -

Like Other Imposters we know, quoting and bragging scripture, but above it themselves.

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2015, 06:41:23 pm »

Have You Been SCAMMED By False Spiritual Authority?

Looking at Similarities


Two key similarities jump out at me in this comparison of False Civil Authority to False Spiritual Authority. They are the Messenger and the Message, or the Authority and the Proclamation. We've heard the truth that one's authority is only as good as the one who sent him.

In the Jury Scam case, the proclaimers or messengers are only operating from their own illusion. There is NO civil authority directing or sending them.  In fact, they are acting in the dark, (hiding themselves from this very authority) so they will not be caught impersonating it. For instance, when my husband offered to go to a close State Police Barracks to verify their claim, they strongly advised us not to, warning I would suffer the consequences of being arrested on site. Thus, if we checked with others with known authority (outside their recommendation) there could be imminent harm to us. During the lengthy conversation, the threat that this danger could happen was the hook that kept us listening - that I would NOT BE in good standing with that real authority.

"SEE, darkness covers the earth & THICK darkness is over the peoples"
(Isaiah 60:2)

'detestable - what they are doing in the darkness'
(Ezekiel's Judgement on Israel's False Prophets)

False Spiritual Authorities also operate in the dark. They warn others not to check with those outside their group, especially with hundreds upon hundreds who have (first hand) REAL KNOWLEDGE OF THEM. They are URGENTLY warned to avoid them (kind of like we were with the State Police). [I want to emphasize here that most Christians do not want to speak out against a christian group they once belonged to UNLESS it concerns the safety of other believers' faith and their general well-being.]

False Spiritual Teachers also use "hooks" just as these False Civil "Teachers" did. They will scare their people into believing a "false" danger is imminent unless they obey their orders. They threaten them that they will not be in good standing with God if they don't follow their instructions.  For instance, telling them that if they "disobey" the elders or leave the group they will be displeasing to Almighty God. They threaten that they will have made an eternal blunder and suffer much loss of eternal reward, or even eternal salvation. So, to the listener, staying seems the only safe option to their brainwashed conscience.  

"Among my people are the wicked who lie in wait
like men who snare birds and
like those who set traps to catch people."

Jeremiah 5:26


When my husband and I questioned these so-called 'police' about the certainty of their proclamation, they spoke in their 'official' firm 'police' tone that they were just carrying out what they had been told by those above. Then the officer read to us some legal jargon from articles such and such (which of course we weren't familiar with). All pointing back to the supposed "authority" from which they were acting. They were masters at pretending. These FALSE Civil Authorities manipulated us to nearly follow their orders (and be recipient of some very bad results) until we queried longer and found a hole in their identity. By checking (with known real sources) into what they told us, we confirmed the Falsifying of their Identity, Authority and Proclamation.

This is similar to how False Spiritual Authorities uphold their disguise. Unfortunately, it's much more prevalent than Police Imposters.  All you seem to need is to carry a bible, quote a few scriptures, have a following of a few believers that are relatively young in their faith, sound especially authoritarian and confident in "teaching the bible", be very persuasive, have an unquenchable thirst for importance and ungodly power, instill manipulative false fear, and a conscience that doesn't object to greed, harshness, and brutality. You can further empower a Spiritual Wolf by simply acting as a non-challenging imposter (a "yes-man") embracing his "doctrinal revelation" and teaching it to others also (though it doesn't benefit you one little bit).

"They want to be known as teachers of the law of Moses, but they don't know what they are talking about, even though they speak so confidently."
  
1Tim. 1:7


Like These False Civil Authorities, False Spiritual Leaders have NO REAL AUTHORITY either. They have not been appointed or sent, nor carry a message from above (as they claim). God has not sent them, nor given them their message. They speak from their own imagination (and a little bit of scripture). Like False Civil Authority, the known real sources of knowledge do not back up their "strange/special" claims.

"They say "The Lord declares" when The Lord has not sent them..."
Ezekiel 13

For instance, nowhere in the bible does it teach to commit to NEVER LEAVE (to stay for life in) a particular group (church,etc.) of believers. It only states that about the marriage vow. I have never heard of any healthy church pastors proclaiming that nor would I expect to. But don't go by my word, ask someone OUTSIDE this group who possesses some real biblical spiritual power and authority.

'Prophesy against the (false) prophets of Israel who are now prophesying. Say to those who prophesy out of their own imagination'
(Ezekiel 13:2)



Like False Civil Authorities, False Spiritual Authorities are rebellious to the law themselves, breaking it in order to carry out their deceptive schemes.

"...you have not followed my decrees or kept my laws but have conformed to the..."
 (Ezekiel)

"anyone who teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ"
(1 Tim. 6:3)

"Certain men not to teach strange doctrines (deviating from the truth)..."
 (1Tim. 1:30)


Both these slick and crafty false authorities cause you to doubt yourself (what you thought to be true), especially your right standing with that REAL authority. They persuade you that you have a serious problem, that you are possibly in much danger. And they both have just the right solution to your "false" dilemma.  All you have to do is obey their orders from above. Unfortunately, following their "right" proclamation will bring your life unwanted loss and even destruction.

'you put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you, takes advantage of you, pushes himself forward, abuses (slaps you in the face)'
(2 Cor. 11:18)


Enough to examine for now  - - -
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2015, 10:08:55 pm »

Excellent points about the similarities, Janet.

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