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Author Topic: Do you know anything about these colleges?  (Read 92417 times)
HolyMoly
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« Reply #80 on: September 22, 2016, 07:28:57 am »

I prefer to keep my distance, but yes, I was involved with GCL at some point, and multiple other GCx groups over the years in different states.  I was wrong in a lot of my responses, but trying address the lower-level leadership was maddening (even worse than arguing with strangers on the internet). Constant circular reasoning (remember no theological training) that always came back to just trusting the national leaders.  Hadn't thought about GCx for years until recently, and was surprised to find this page. Another thing I remember is there were no confidential conversations. "Confidential" conversations with staff or student leaders would be repeated the local pastor. "Confidential" conversations with local pastor would be repeated to national leaders.  And more than once a leader either outright lied to my face and said they had not repeated it, or went Bill Clinton and could not recall. Unbelievable dishonesty.

If you were ever at GCL, did you run into Kees Boer? Pervy old Dutch guy who creeped out a lot of female students half his age. Wonder if he is still around.
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« Reply #81 on: September 22, 2016, 05:20:04 pm »

I was not at GCL, but worked with them on occasion.  I was in another S. E. GCM church who drank the same Kool-Aid
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« Reply #82 on: September 29, 2016, 06:21:30 am »

If your child is partying with the "heathen" then something may have gone wrong with the inoculation process at home. I attended undergrad Christian institutions when they were more affordable in the seventies and I knew plenty of kids that went berserk and took drugs then. Remember Frank Graham? I had him in a class where he mocked the 80 year old English Ph.D. He eventually got thrown out (I saw when he was forced to leave campus) for an indiscretion on his part. The rest is history.

I just saw this the other day.  I haven't read the whole discussion but I just wanted to share this.  My sister went to a Christian college and found that the students there engaged in pretty much the same behaviors that students from secular, non-religious schools did.  She talked about sexual activity (of course, not not witnessed personally but there was a young couple who were always together and engaged in a lot of close physical contact in public); use of profanity; students caught with use of alcohol or other drugs; and so on.  Even Christians who are true believers still stumble and fall and can engage in sin.  But from what my sister told me, I got the idea that some parents sent their kids to Christian schools in hopes of avoiding the wildness and partying of secular colleges; or, these were kids who had not yet made a commitment of faith to the LORD and their parents hoped the schools would serve as ministers of the gospel to them.  

I went to a secular college.  Honestly, after hearing of my sister's experiences, I was actually glad not to have to deal with the pressure of "you can't do this or that" at a Christian school.  And I don't say this to brag but while I was there, I disciplined myself and stayed away from the party lifestyle.  
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« Reply #83 on: September 29, 2016, 10:45:34 am »

And I went to a huge secular state school, and went wild with sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll. It's all about the Lord calling you, and your parents bringing you up to know Him.  Thankfully I at least got the former.
I still do love the rock 'n roll though. And the sex (I'm married).
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« Reply #84 on: September 30, 2016, 08:39:36 am »

 Cheesy
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