Spanking

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[Linda]

Agatha, I didn't take what you said as negative on homeschooling. I assumed you were talking about books by the Pearls and Ezzo's being sold at homeschool conventions. I don't know much about how the vendors are chosen at homeschool conventions, but from what I know about the MN convention, vendors merely rent space. I don't think much screening is done beyond assuming everyone is a Christian. I remember seeing books by the people who think the Sun revolves around the Earth, and just passing by that booth. That's what I would do at an Ezzo or Pearl booth--well, actually, now I might just stop and read what they teach! Lot's of homeschool people are World Magazine people and I remember years ago, World did a rather negative piece on the Ezzos and spanking infants. Anyway, I'm really glad I never heard of the Ezzos or Pearls or Jim McCotter when my kids were little.

[Immortal_Raven]

Yeah, I think we got offtrack for the thread.  I've just never seen homeschooling done right firsthand.  I know there are good ones out there, same with charter schools.  I just object to GC's reasoning for homeschooling in the discipline arena and to a lesser degree in the indoctrination arena. 

-Immortal_Raven

[Linda]

I've just never seen homeschooling done right firsthand.

I'm sorry to hear this.

[EverAStudent]

E. Ray Moore, another GC elder in the 1970's - 1980's, wrote a book and founded an anti-public school movement ("Let My People Go").  He seemed to see Satan behind every school teacher.  Fear mongering at its worst.  And misuse of the Old Testament at its best.

Remember, the passage in the Old Testament ("raise a child in the way he should go and when he is old he will not depart from it") is not a promise, it is a general principle of life.  Moreover, the passage is not talking about obligating God to give a child saving faith, as the passage does not say, "and when he is old he will remain saved and in the faith."  The passage is a general principle about civil, productive, and mature behavior as opposed to teaching a child to be a slackard or a brawler.

Faith is a gift from God to the child, not a gift from the parent to the child.  We cannot save our children, only God can do that.  We can train and teach, but God does the choosing and the saving.

[Linda]

Was E. Ray Moore related to Raymond & Dorothy Moore--the Home Grown Kids peopls? They were Seventh Day Adventists, I believe.

[EverAStudent]

Was E. Ray Moore related to Raymond & Dorothy Moore--the Home Grown Kids peopls? They were Seventh Day Adventists, I believe.

No.  Dorothy and Raymond were the names of the Moore's oldest children.  However, I do not think the Home Grown Kids people are their children.  Based on a quick internet search, I think these are coincidently named but entirely different people.