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Author Topic: Pastor Mark Darling-Pastor who abused me  (Read 284708 times)
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« Reply #340 on: April 23, 2018, 10:14:11 am »

John is not speaking up, which is weird to me

John has voiced his support for a 3rd party investigation several times on Facebook, including a lengthy post stating his support for the alleged victims. Your statement is untrue and misleading.
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« Reply #341 on: April 23, 2018, 10:57:42 am »

So he can be trashed, slammed, have his background records and character brought up, be shamed, mocked, and called a liar?

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« Reply #342 on: April 23, 2018, 11:01:16 am »

So he can be trashed, slammed, have his background records and character brought up, be shamed, mocked, and called a liar?

What would your husband do for you if you were sexually abused?
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« Reply #343 on: April 23, 2018, 11:05:00 am »

We had a big long talk about this, and we agreed, that in GCx we were in such a strange mindset, we may very well have excused things (and did excuse things) that were not okay.

Some people aren't in love with airing things online.  It doesn't mean he isn't supportive, and he HAS actually suppported her.

I just think it's interesting that people seem to think if a man brings it forward, more people would pay attention. 
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« Reply #344 on: April 23, 2018, 11:10:51 am »

John is not speaking up, which is weird to me

John has voiced his support for a 3rd party investigation several times on Facebook, including a lengthy post stating his support for the alleged victims. Your statement is untrue and misleading.

He has made 2 or 3 very short, vague statements.  People have asked questions in return that he will not answer.  Don't you think he would be a little more vocal and supportive of Suzanne? 

OK, so you have changed from "John is not speaking up" to "John has made 2 or 3 very short, vague statements." How many statements do you expect? Do you want people to be quiet and wait for the result of an investigation, or do you want them raise hell? Is it 10 statements? 20? 296 posts on our forum?

I found his statement on March 10 to be direct and specific.

What I think you're getting at is this little nugget: "Does anyone know if they're divorced?? Imagine a divorced woman alleging accusations against a happily married man??" in an effort to discredit her. It doesn't matter if she's married, single, divorced, widowed, whatever. Keep your shaming to yourself.
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« Reply #345 on: April 23, 2018, 11:28:17 am »

We had a big long talk about this, and we agreed, that in GCx we were in such a strange mindset, we may very well have excused things (and did excuse things) that were not okay.

I just think it's interesting that people seem to think if a man brings it forward, more people would pay attention. 

Agatha, I can imagine no situation in which I would excuse this if it were my wife. None. Ever. And you know this has nothing to do with "a man bringing it forward," rather it has everything to do with the fact that he is an eyewitness to this. He was in the meeting with Mark, Mark and her counselor etc. Why is it a "man" thing with you?
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« Reply #346 on: April 23, 2018, 11:39:03 am »

How do you know that John is not telling his story and supporting his wife? Because he hasnít posted on Facebook? Time shall tell.
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« Reply #347 on: April 23, 2018, 11:53:03 am »

And maybe John is really "Linda". 😉
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« Reply #348 on: April 23, 2018, 11:54:03 am »

He too turned down the opportunity to talk to Joan.

Frankly, I feel sorry for the guy.
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« Reply #349 on: April 23, 2018, 12:30:02 pm »

He too turned down the opportunity to talk to Joan.

Frankly, I feel sorry for the guy.

Why would he participate in the internal investigation if Suzanne chose not to? Makes sense to me.
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« Reply #350 on: April 23, 2018, 12:31:12 pm »

GTA, with all of your posting about "gossip" and related verses, you of all people should not repeat something that you have no knowledge of.  Always ranting about speculation from people who know nothing.  


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« Reply #351 on: April 23, 2018, 01:12:35 pm »

My question is how is it relevant at all that what anyone's marriage status is?  And for that matter what their status as a Christian is?   

You keep bringing these things up as though a divorce, separation, or being a non-Christian, or non-practicing Christian changes the veracity of someone's statements. If anything, problems in someone's life would, in my mind, affirm what they are saying because it shows that some kind of trauma or life changing event has happened that has caused someone to take a different path.

The world is not as black and white as you think it is.  And it's truly hurtful and cruel to use anyone's lifestyle status as a chance to make potshots about their statements. 
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« Reply #352 on: April 23, 2018, 01:42:52 pm »

My point is that it may or may not be the case, but it isn't relevant.  And it certainly doesn't change the truth of someone's statements. 
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« Reply #353 on: April 23, 2018, 01:57:54 pm »

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To the best of my remembrance John (husband and ECC pastor at the time) and I did not know about that beforehand.

I'm not Google either, but it wasn't hard to find with a search of her posts. She was saying he was an ECC pastor at that time.
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« Reply #354 on: April 23, 2018, 02:30:33 pm »

Wow, a lot of interest in this topic. I'm sure Heidi could confirm for you.
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« Reply #355 on: April 23, 2018, 02:50:13 pm »

Clear, I agree. Why are we even discussing this? Her marital status has no impact whatsoever on the veracity of her claims. Neither does John Van Dyke's verbal support or silence. It is completely irrelevant.
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« Reply #356 on: April 23, 2018, 04:39:38 pm »

Clear, I agree. Why are we even discussing this? Her marital status has no impact whatsoever on the veracity of her claims. Neither does John Van Dyke's verbal support or silence. It is completely irrelevant.

Yes.   It doesn't matter.  And further it's just mean spirited.  Sad
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« Reply #357 on: April 23, 2018, 05:06:44 pm »

GTA - saying "you remember reading something" and listening to others "mention something" and repeating Jeromy's speculation IS gossip. Nothing is based in fact, it is all rumors at this point. It saddens me that people are repeating rumors and yet blind to the fact that they are further spreading them.
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« Reply #358 on: April 23, 2018, 05:14:13 pm »

Sorry Agatha. Let me rephrase: It does matter that people are sharing rumors and using that to create doubt about Suzanne's credibility and character. It does not matter if she is divorced for the purposes of determining if her allegations are true.
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« Reply #359 on: April 23, 2018, 05:23:56 pm »

It could matter if Suzanne feels that Mark is responsible for current state of their marriage.
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